Comments on: The end of the MDD promise in OSLO http://pjmolina.com/metalevel/2009/11/the-end-of-the-mdd-promise-in-oslo/ Abstraction based levitation Fri, 04 May 2012 10:14:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: pjmolina http://pjmolina.com/metalevel/2009/11/the-end-of-the-mdd-promise-in-oslo/comment-page-1/#comment-92 pjmolina Mon, 16 Nov 2009 09:35:26 +0000 http://pjmolina.com/metalevel/?p=356#comment-92 <a href="http://voelterblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/oslo-becomes-sql-server-modeling-my-2.html" rel="nofollow">Markus Völter</a> position and <a href="http://www.eweek.com/c/a/Application-Development/Microsoft-Defends-Oslo-Move-to-SQL-Server-203987/" rel="nofollow">eWeek.com article</a> about it. Markus Völter position and eWeek.com article about it.

]]> By: pjmolina http://pjmolina.com/metalevel/2009/11/the-end-of-the-mdd-promise-in-oslo/comment-page-1/#comment-87 pjmolina Wed, 11 Nov 2009 23:46:39 +0000 http://pjmolina.com/metalevel/?p=356#comment-87 More opinions: <a href="http://blog.jordanterrell.com/post/m-and-oslos-future.aspx" rel="nofollow">Jordan Terrel</a>. More opinions: Jordan Terrel.

]]> By: pjmolina http://pjmolina.com/metalevel/2009/11/the-end-of-the-mdd-promise-in-oslo/comment-page-1/#comment-86 pjmolina Wed, 11 Nov 2009 15:03:37 +0000 http://pjmolina.com/metalevel/?p=356#comment-86 <a href="http://www.ebpml.org/blog/205.htm" rel="nofollow">JJ. Dubray comments</a> about the topic. JJ. Dubray comments about the topic.

]]> By: GMilano http://pjmolina.com/metalevel/2009/11/the-end-of-the-mdd-promise-in-oslo/comment-page-1/#comment-85 GMilano Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:08:00 +0000 http://pjmolina.com/metalevel/?p=356#comment-85 Hi Pedro, this is just another case on Innovation Dilemma that in my opinion MS is suffering. I mean there are not so many Microsoft customers asking for MDD and at the same time there are a lot of big customers asking for better data modeling tools. So... MS is following their customers needs and in this case is exactly their problem. This is exactly the Innovator's Dilemma ! Hi Pedro, this is just another case on Innovation Dilemma that in my opinion MS is suffering. I mean there are not so many Microsoft customers asking for MDD and at the same time there are a lot of big customers asking for better data modeling tools. So… MS is following their customers needs and in this case is exactly their problem.
This is exactly the Innovator’s Dilemma !

]]> By: pjmolina http://pjmolina.com/metalevel/2009/11/the-end-of-the-mdd-promise-in-oslo/comment-page-1/#comment-84 pjmolina Wed, 11 Nov 2009 12:16:46 +0000 http://pjmolina.com/metalevel/?p=356#comment-84 I agree Rui. The MDD community has a strong principles and enough "know-how" about how things should be done. The revolution of MDD to happen is just a question of time to mature good enough tools. I agree Rui. The MDD community has a strong principles and enough “know-how” about how things should be done.

The revolution of MDD to happen is just a question of time to mature good enough tools.

]]> By: Rui Curado http://pjmolina.com/metalevel/2009/11/the-end-of-the-mdd-promise-in-oslo/comment-page-1/#comment-83 Rui Curado Wed, 11 Nov 2009 11:57:18 +0000 http://pjmolina.com/metalevel/?p=356#comment-83 I would like to play devil's advocate here, and say that some people's bad news are other people's good news. For those like me who are developing MDD methodologies (http://www.abse.info) that would become competitors to OSLO, these are not bad news after all. I understand though that competition and a wider choice of approaches are always healthy for developers. However, Microsoft has a long track record of messing up good ideas in the long run, and this is again "business as usual". The suitability of OSLO to generic MDD and a long-term commitment to this technology from Microsoft was yet to be seen anyway. There was no clear path from MS since the beginning, and we should have seen this coming. The good news for MDD advocates is that the general disappointment generated by this announcement is that MDD is a really needed and sought for evolution! I would like to play devil’s advocate here, and say that some people’s bad news are other people’s good news.

For those like me who are developing MDD methodologies (http://www.abse.info) that would become competitors to OSLO, these are not bad news after all.

I understand though that competition and a wider choice of approaches are always healthy for developers.

However, Microsoft has a long track record of messing up good ideas in the long run, and this is again “business as usual”. The suitability of OSLO to generic MDD and a long-term commitment to this technology from Microsoft was yet to be seen anyway.

There was no clear path from MS since the beginning, and we should have seen this coming.

The good news for MDD advocates is that the general disappointment generated by this announcement is that MDD is a really needed and sought for evolution!

]]> By: Jordi Cabot http://pjmolina.com/metalevel/2009/11/the-end-of-the-mdd-promise-in-oslo/comment-page-1/#comment-82 Jordi Cabot Wed, 11 Nov 2009 08:04:28 +0000 http://pjmolina.com/metalevel/?p=356#comment-82 The first symptom of this change of direction was that Microsoft decided to merge the Oslo team with the Data Programmability team. It's unfortunate for the MDD community that now they have completed the switch. The first symptom of this change of direction was that Microsoft decided to merge the Oslo team with the Data Programmability team. It’s unfortunate for the MDD community that now they have completed the switch.

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